Curse

yaoxin · Dec 28, 2005, 07:36 AM // 07:36

im a regurlar competetition arena person, for me it is really hard to find a good team to do tomb.

now with all the complaining about fraction going to waste becoz of faction cap, i suggest anet allows fraction to be coverted into fame, this way when u unlocked every thing u still have the motives to pvp, coz u cant have too much fame....

since gaining fraction in competition arena means u r doing good, so with enough fractions to covert to fame, should be very reasonable, i hope anet looks into this

otherwise allow fraction trading.... the fractions thats gained from people that has unlocked every thing could be traded to new players for gold or what ever they perfer...

this way the old players stays interested in the game while new players can get into the game fast

yaoxin · Dec 28, 2005, 07:38 AM // 07:38

how much fraction should be required inorder to incrase a single fame should be considered, if too much fraction is required every one would ditch CA inorder to do tome, and vice versa, (assumption)

masterbeef · Dec 28, 2005, 06:52 PM // 18:52

I dont agree with turning it into fame because fame shows that you are experienced in tombs. If you could just trade faction for fame then you could get say r9 with virtually no experience in tombs. I do however, like the idea of trading gold for faction. When i switched from Pve to Pvp it would've helped me a lot to get started.

fallot · Dec 28, 2005, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Like masterbeef said, Fame is a measure of Tombs experience. Making Faction convert into Fame is a very bad idea. I dont like the current Tombs system but this is nowhere near an answer.

Ado · Dec 28, 2005, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Since IWAY is free fame it's difficult anyhow to know if someone is an experienced tombs player.

BigTru · Dec 28, 2005, 09:50 PM // 21:50

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Originally Posted by Ado

Since IWAY is free fame it's difficult anyhow to know if someone is an experienced tombs player.

You know what else is "free fame"? Playing in the tombs and winning a game.

"OMG, Tombs of the Primevil Kings is awesome! Free fame that I don't even have to pay for!"

Victory Gaint · Dec 29, 2005, 03:21 AM // 03:21

it could be so that u could trade 2k fac. for 1 fame??

Everyname Is Taken · Dec 29, 2005, 03:28 AM // 03:28

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Originally Posted by Ado

Since IWAY is free fame it's difficult anyhow to know if someone is an experienced tombs player.

lol, that's true. I saw a rank 6, a week ago (before I got NetErr=58), didn't even know what ts and vent was cause all he did was iway.

Competition arena is a whole lot different than tombs so it shouldn't count.

Crazyvietguy · Dec 29, 2005, 03:41 AM // 03:41

If they want to do the faction to fame, make it 5k faction for 1 fame, 2k faction i can earn in one day (109 victories, half flawless) that will get you faction easy.

Kai Nui · Dec 29, 2005, 07:47 AM // 07:47

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Originally Posted by BigTru

You know what else is "free fame"? Playing in the tombs and winning a game.

"OMG, Tombs of the Primevil Kings is awesome! Free fame that I don't even have to pay for!"

You're quite foolish. I feel sorry for you if you have no idea what he meant by "free fame." If you're playing IWAY, you're not playing the game for what it was meant to be played as, and that's as skill. If you think that playing IWAY is skill, then you are sadly mistaken. The people who discovered and made up the build for IWAY are the only people who I think deserve any respect for the build.

Ado · Dec 29, 2005, 12:03 PM // 12:03

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Originally Posted by Kai Nui

You're quite foolish. I feel sorry for you if you have no idea what he meant by "free fame." If you're playing IWAY, you're not playing the game for what it was meant to be played as, and that's as skill. If you think that playing IWAY is skill, then you are sadly mistaken. The people who discovered and made up the build for IWAY are the only people who I think deserve any respect for the build.

You've taken the words right of my mouth

fallot · Dec 29, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai Nui

If you're playing IWAY, you're not playing the game for what it was meant to be played as, and that's as skill. If you think that playing IWAY is skill, then you are sadly mistaken.

I consider it a failing of the current tombs system that even people who would otherwise shirk IWAY are forced to employ it just so they can scrounge enough fame to get into a team that does anything else. If you're new to Tombs and arent' doing IWAY, there isnt much chance that you are going to find a group.

Victory Gaint · Dec 29, 2005, 05:46 PM // 17:46

I would suggest going with friends or guild groups.

Farin · Dec 30, 2005, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Actually IWAY would *teach* you how to be a decent warrior if you played it enough, but then again, there's too many idiots involved with it.

I agre on the 5k Faction for 1 Fame. 2k would probably be too easy. That way I would unlock my last Bow Grip of Warding, I haven't done it because you stop getting those +20 Faction number above your heard, which can be pretty useful actually. They let you know if that target had been killed before or not. ( Death Penalty Wise, it can help a lot.)

yaoxin · Jan 01, 2006, 12:45 PM // 12:45

yes the +20 fraction over the head is useful to tell if some one has died, for many reasons, example: for necros they can start rising the dead, not but however u do get +20 or what ever exp over ur head so u could tell any way, unless its a pet.

but i think 5k fraction for 1 fame is far too hard, considering to win in the tomb is not all that hard... the hard part is just to get a nice team together, while some people can get 100 fame in a day..... its not possible for any one to get 500k fraction in a day... well its not normal any way

fraction isnt hard to get but to get 1 fame, it would require far less time to get 1k fraction, if anet were to introduce 2k fraction for 1 fame there will be nothing wrong with that, no one would bother fraction farming for fame.... it would just be faster if they did the tomb....

any supports here?

Kakumei · Jan 01, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Dude, it's Faction. Not fraction.

lishi · Jan 01, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

guys did you read masterbeef post?

fame = a tomb of thing

is not for make the cool emote , is a way where a player supposed to know if the other player have some experience.

since fame is a thing related to tomb , the only way to gain it is from a tomb only experience not gvg or TA or CA.

led-zep · Jan 02, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58

if fame is only exclusively a tombs reward then maybe all these 'tombs' people should have their fame emotes disabled in other towns or at least give the pve community something to flash back at them. if the fame emote can be displayed everywhere why cant it be earned everywhere? especially with the tombs elitism that is taking over gw where noone can get a match unless a certain rank thus not earning fame.

Barazur · Jan 02, 2006, 03:01 AM // 03:01

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Originally Posted by led-zep

if fame is only exclusively a tombs reward then maybe all these 'tombs' people should have their fame emotes disabled in other towns or at least give the pve community something to flash back at them. if the fame emote can be displayed everywhere why cant it be earned everywhere? especially with the tombs elitism that is taking over gw where noone can get a match unless a certain rank thus not earning fame.

The Rank -which is the ultimate measure of a player skills in pvp- depends on fame. The fact that fame is acquired only in tombs is a distortion of the system.

PS trading gold for fame? Are we crazy? Faction > Fame makes sense but god, not gold.

Ultimate_Gaara · Jan 02, 2006, 05:45 AM // 05:45

Personaly i don't care what they do with the whole fame thing... just because you don't have any fame does not mean you are any less exprience than someone with a high fame... how you ask?

Well take me for example, i have 0 fame but have done tombs more times than one person should without gaining any fame... why is this?.. because I just happen to get into bad groups with no game plan going in (Not like i care im there to have fun not to win)

However i could take the easy street to getting fame... I could whip out my monk and yell "heal monk lfg with ts" and watch the good party offers fly, sit back and heal while my team does all the work and basicly leech fame... but i choose not to do this because i don't want to listen to some 14 year old group leader boss me around

Having fun > Rank/Fame

In closing fame has little to do with one's individual skill, but rather a groups skill all together....